Why would a guitar player hack bassist play an unlined board?

[LBS-bass]

stupid question, i know shocker right? when fretting does the pitch change if not right behind the fret? for some reason i never noticed. for a time i could judge where i was by the taper of the neck. then i realized this and started screwing up. thinking too much instead of letting it flow.

On Fretted instruments, yhes, you can mess up your intonation by not placing your finger in the right place or using hte correct amount of pressure. The size of the frets makes a difference here, too. A common rookie mistake is to press too hard in-between frets and pull things out of tune. This is more noticeable to my ear on a regular guitar, partly because most bass players use thick strings that prevents this to a degree. I use light strings, so I have to be more mindful of it.

Fretless you have to be very precise in terms of where you put your fingers because there's literally no wiggle room. On a fretted, with the right amount of pressure, your little micro-intonation flaws based on finger position aren't necessarily noticeable.

 

[YourGraceBass]

On Fretted instruments, yhes, you can mess up your intonation by not placing your finger in the right place or using hte correct amount of pressure. The size of the frets makes a difference here, too. A common rookie mistake is to press too hard in-between frets and pull things out of tune. This is more noticeable to my ear on a regular guitar, partly because most bass players use thick strings that prevents this to a degree. I use light strings, so I have to be more mindful of it.

Fretless you have to be very precise in terms of where you put your fingers because there's literally no wiggle room. On a fretted, with the right amount of pressure, your little micro-intonation flaws based on finger position aren't necessarily noticeable.

On a fretted instrument, most notes are already out of tune other than the octave. With fretless, they all are.

Same as you, violin was my first instrument (started in 2nd grade). Great grandfathers on both sides were fiddlers and I still have one's 120 yr old violin. Wish I had learned it better, I'd have gigs every week.

I have a fretless harem. This one's fun:

 

[ponchonlefty]

thanks guys. this explains me adjusting the fine tuners sometimes. the pressure varied and the position. i thought it was the tremolo. it was me instead.

 

[LBS-bass]

On a fretted instrument, most notes are already out of tune other than the octave. With fretless, they all are.

Same as you, violin was my first instrument (started in 2nd grade). Great grandfathers on both sides were fiddlers and I still have one's 120 yr old violin. Wish I had learned it better, I'd have gigs every week.

I have a fretless harem. This one's fun:

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True enough to be confusing if people don't know about temperament! It's why I cringe at guitarists constantly trying to retune their G and B srings. Just roll with it, dude, it's not getting any better.

 

[LBS-bass]

thanks guys. this explains me adjusting the fine tuners sometimes. the pressure varied and the position. i thought it was the tremolo. it was me instead.

It's just that things that are technically "in tune" don't sound right, so we have all these adjustments we make in tuning. It's called temperament and you could write a book on that alone, there are many different tuning systems that attempt to account for this.

 

[Andyman]

It's just that things that are technically "in tune" don't sound right, so we have all these adjustments we make in tuning. It's called temperament and you could write a book on that alone, there are many different tuning systems that attempt to account for this.

True
pun intended

 

[Pilgrim]

For those of us who don't play fretless much, the lines are helpful.

In the words of the sage and philosopher Forrest Gump, "That's all I have to say about that."

 

[YourGraceBass]

True
pun intended
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Actually, this really pi$$es me off.

 

[semioldfart]

I fully acknowledge that I might be served by lines. But i play bass for fun, and I think its pretty. I think I can even pull off a tune or two in public if the mix is sparse and i have a month for rainmain levels of practice.

Sort of like the kid who never really learned "guitar" exept he learned how to play eruption from his friends, it's a cool parlor trick now and then

 

[ficelles]

 

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Oh, I was just wondering - how do you say "fuck off" in your native tongue? Thanks a million!

 

[ficelles]

Oh, I was just wondering - how do you say "fuck off" in your native tongue? Thanks a million!

I think "Otvali, mudak" should do it.

 

[bonin in the boneyard]

I think "Otvali, mudak" should do it.

My friend taught me "пошёл на хуй."

 

[ficelles]

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[Pilgrim]

I just got word that another of my high school classmates has passed. His name was Lazlo Potosckai. (I just found his name on a photo from 1968 and I'll be damned if I didn't spell his last name correctly. I can't explain that, as the last time I ever saw it was between 1964 and 68...)

He was a good dude, pretty good athlete. His family was one of the last to get out of Hungary in 1956 when their revolution happened and the Soviets nailed the country down. He made it to my little university town and grew up there. He taught us some Hungarian curses we could use on the other schools' teams without getting in trouble.

Mention of the languages prompted this memory. I now return you to our normal irrelevancies.

 

[4strings]

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[armyadarkness]

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[Pilgrim]

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[Jim C]

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