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Jared

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i haven't drove a wrx but i sit in one at a salvage auction. i was comfortable in that car. probably would have bought it if it were auctioned that day. it would be my pick.
I’ve driven a first gen WRX and a few Miata’s. Both are good. I need to drive a BRZ before making a choice. Right now it’s all academic. I’m not going to bring another car home unless I have indoor storage for it.
 

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I don’t like it enough to put the work into it that it needs.
Theres a guy on the GTO forum right now, who Im going through this with.

That's the PROBLEM with C3's!!!!

Since divorced school teachers were the target market (at least that's how the statistics look) so many were auto's, and they're just not worth much... Whenever I see them for sale on the classics sites, I always look, and all of these idiots are listing their automatics, at manual prices!!!!

On a C3 (as with any muscle car, but more so on a Vette), it's probably a $20,000 difference.

But the even bigger issue with C3's, as you point out, is the effort and cost. Everyone thinks "oh man, I got a Vette! I need to save this baby and sell it for a million bucks someday!". Not realizing that 74-82 are nearly worthless, unless they're manuals and mint!!! And even then, aside from the 78 pace car, they're still not worth much.

But if it's been sitting outside in a feild? It's junk. Bird cages are the first to go and they're not fixable at all. Then if you have to work on the suspension, gas tank, diff, or interior... a lift is mandatory and you need special tools and skills... and the parts are pricey.

So... yes... found with low mileage, C3's that were stored indoors are always a great buy, because they're fun and cheap! The big downside being, if you bump into Mrs. Henderson, your 6th grade teacher... you may have to awkwardly explain how you bought her car off her ex husband.
 

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c4 vettes are cheap for what you get. drop a LS or 383 in there and have a fast great handling car. ive never drove one
so im sure it has its bad points too. but on paper looks impressive.
C4's are AWESOME to drive! In many ways, much better than C6 and 7. The handling and power isnt as great, but you're also not crammed into a can that you cant see out of.
 

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ive never drove a vette. from what i see its a cool platform to build on.
Yes, and no. Depends on what you want to do.

2 months ago, I tried to buy a C7 Grand Sport. You literally cant get in and out of the car, without it being an organized event.

If you ever sat down in your car, realized you forgot your phone and then had to get right back out of the car, you'd probably need to meditate first.
 

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im thinking a more powerful engine and you got a very fun cheap hot rod. gutted and replace the inside with racing stuff.
As horrible as C7's are for visibility, comfort, and utilitarianism... they have 600-800 HP, weigh nothing, and handle a glue trap. It's a straight-up factory race car... and not at all like a C3 (retired school teacher), or C4 (David Hasselhoff) would drive.

A C5 (Vince Neil) is when Chevy really started to make the car transition from reputation to ability. C6 (Ryan Reynolds) was the refinement of C5.

C7 (Bruce McLaren) Was track ready off the showroom floor, and C8 (retired school teacher) is the epitome of them all combined... the greatest American sports car ever built, yet somehow, once again it seems more about the name, than the origin of its intention.

As it sits, the Camaro, Charger, Challenger, and Mustang are every bit as much of a Sports Car, as they are a Muscle Car. They've all captured the spirit of the Corvettes lineage, in a much more enjoyable package (tee hee he), with all of the bells, horns, and whistles that arent possible on a Vette. Any one of them new, would easily rival a C6 or older Vette.

At the end of the day, C2-C4 Vettes are fun cars that act like sweet, performance versions of their muscle car brethren. After that, expect to be inconvenienced for the opportunity
 

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As horrible as C7's are for visibility, comfort, and utilitarianism... they have 600-800 HP, weigh nothing, and handle a glue trap. It's a straight-up factory race car... and not at all like a C3 (retired school teacher), or C4 (David Hasselhoff) would drive.

A C5 (Vince Neil) is when Chevy really started to make the car transition from reputation to ability. C6 (Ryan Reynolds) was the refinement of C5.

C7 (Bruce McLaren) Was track ready off the showroom floor, and C8 (retired school teacher) is the epitome of them all combined... the greatest American sports car ever built, yet somehow, once again it seems more about the name, than the origin of its intention.

As it sits, the Camaro, Charger, Challenger, and Mustang are every bit as much of a Sports Car, as they are a Muscle Car. They've all captured the spirit of the Corvettes lineage, in a much more enjoyable package (tee hee he), with all of the bells, horns, and whistles that arent possible on a Vette. Any one of them new, would easily rival a C6 or older Vette.

At the end of the day, C2-C4 Vettes are fun cars that act like sweet, performance versions of their muscle car brethren. After that, expect to be inconvenienced for the opportunity
nicely written. i like the celebrity references. im thinking the billy ray cyrus on crack version. white trash fast edition.
 

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Yes, and no. Depends on what you want to do.

2 months ago, I tried to buy a C7 Grand Sport. You literally cant get in and out of the car, without it being an organized event.

If you ever sat down in your car, realized you forgot your phone and then had to get right back out of the car, you'd probably need to meditate first.
yeah, that prelude i had was cool until i had to get out fast. looked like a drunk pouring out of that car.
 
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