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    This election will create lots of construction jobs

    First, whack the driver, then, off the passengers. I want everyone in the car whacked off.
    ... Al Capone

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    First, whack the driver, then, off the passengers. I want everyone in the car whacked off.
    ... Al Capone

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    Where will be the concession speech?? The porn store by the lamdscaping joint? Or the Bitch bunker refusing to leave..

    I’m sorry you lose.. Good day sir

    I have come to kick ass

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    On today’s episode of “Fuckin’ liberals, man”

    -That 70’s “meme” of tracing your lineage back to Charlemagne has transitioned from a funny, probably marijuana-fueled thought experiment to being a white supremacist calling card because it illustrates how “pure” your blood is…even though the original intention was a thought experiment, and that actual White Supremacists haven’t yet adopted this as one of their things – this is just a thing added by “the woke left”

    -As a corollary, celebrating your European lineage (through things like Pulaski Days, St, Patrick’s Day, German Festivals, etc.) is also considered “white supremacist” because BIPOC cannot trace their lineage back to a certain area/country/heritage due to things like relocating the indigenous tribes or by taking slaves over from Africa.  It’s seen as an overt celebration of our white, euro-centric heritage and ignores the plights of minority groups.

    -In a supreme twist of irony, the term “woke” is now cultural appropriation.  It used to refer to when a BIPOC “woke” up one morning and realized how shitty life was for them, and that they’d been playing as a pawn in the white man’s game.  Now, rich white kids have overtaken the term to show how “in touch” they are.

    -The show The Dukes Of Hazzard is now apparently Confederate propaganda, not just because of the flag on the roof of the car, but because it shows happy-go-lucky farmers solving minor issues throughout the series, and does not showcase the trials and tribulation of minorities.  Furthermore, it showcases white privilege because even though the main characters undertake the very leftist missions of exposing and tearing down a corrupt system, they’re constantly flaunting the law and facing no real consequences.  We’ll ignore the fact that the whole-ass series has a pretty tremendous plot point where Bo and Luke are literally on probation as punitive measures for breaking the law.

    -In the debate over “Indian vs. Native American,” we’re supposed to call them with the terminology that each individual or small group prefers.  Unless, they prefer the term “Indian.”  I was confused by that one as well, having been told by a respected tribal elder/legal counsel in a college class that her group prefers the term “Indian” because “native American” feels disingenuous, and like it’s the bare minimum from “the woke left.”  But, I can’t hold this opinion (that a tribal elder told me her preferred nomenclature) because “native American” is the term that “the woke left” uses.

    -Oh, and the word “marijuana” or “marihuana” is also racist against Hisp…uh…Lati…no, that’s not right either.  It’s racist against the groups of people in Spanish-speaking countries in tropical regions of Central and South America where cannabis plants grow.  We’re supposed to use the word “cannabis” now.  “Weed” doesn’t accurately describe it anymore, “Ganja” is cultural appropriation from Rastafarians, “Grass” is an antiquated term that Boomers use, and “hemp” isn’t even the same plant (???)

    I’m trying to do my best, I’m trying to learn and make the people around me comfortable.  I want to leave the world in better shape than it was when I found it…but, fuck man, when you’re dealing with people like above, it’s hard to even try anymore.  No matter what I do, I’m in the wrong.

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    I’m trying to do my best, I’m trying to learn and make the people around me comfortable.  I want to leave the world in better shape than it was when I found it…but, fuck man, when you’re dealing with people like above, it’s hard to even try anymore.  No matter what I do, I’m in the wrong.

    Sometimes, it’s just easier to be an asshole.

    The minute you think you’ve got the acceptable vocabulary down, someone finds something offensive about it, and it requires a change.

    I’m reminded of a George Carlin bit, explaining the transition of “shell-shock” to PTSD.

    Sometimes, I think it applies to the PC Police, and their incessant need to change the language, because they suddenly feel a word is offensive/demeaning, or has a negative connotation.

    Like some group going on about the word “pet” suddenly being “bad”

    Sitting here like uninvited company.

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    Like changing the word “pet” to something else, will suddenly stop the abuse and neglect animals everywhere face.

    Changing terminology doesn’t make you any less of a shitty person. So take that raised pinky, and jammit in yer stinky.

     

    Sitting here like uninvited company.

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    Well, all this stuff kind of annoys me, and I’m a card carrying liberal.  But I’m also someone who believes that, most of the time, a person’s heart is in the right place and if we all worked harder to understand one another, we’d find common ground.  These sorts of wedges are meant to create divisions, not harmony.  If we actually talk to each other before we judge, odds are good we’ll find that we understand more than we expect.

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    Well, all this stuff kind of annoys me, and I’m a card carrying liberal. But I’m also someone who believes that, most of the time, a person’s heart is in the right place and if we all worked harder to understand one another, we’d find common ground. These sorts of wedges are meant to create divisions, not harmony. If we actually talk to each other before we judge, odds are good we’ll find that we understand more than we expect.

    I agree 💯%

    To me, it feels like the “fucking liberals” always want to “have a conversation/open a dialogue”,

    Until you use a term that is deemed verboten, then it’s 50 shades of “how could you?!”

     

    The people that have the patience and understanding to actually open up a conversation with those who are “wrong” are few and far between.

    Just my perspective.

    Sitting here like uninvited company.

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    Well, all this stuff kind of annoys me, and I’m a card carrying liberal. But I’m also someone who believes that, most of the time, a person’s heart is in the right place and if we all worked harder to understand one another, we’d find common ground. These sorts of wedges are meant to create divisions, not harmony. If we actually talk to each other before we judge, odds are good we’ll find that we understand more than we expect.

    I agree 💯%

    To me, it feels like the “fucking liberals” always want to “have a conversation/open a dialogue”,

    Until you use a term that is deemed verboten, then it’s 50 shades of “how could you?!”

    The people that have the patience and understanding to actually open up a conversation with those who are “wrong” are few and far between.

    Just my perspective.

    Well, it’s this insidious thing called “identity politics.”  At least, I think it is.  I’m not an expert.

    But it seems to be that there’s a faction on the left that seems to want to carve everything up into tidy little squares, with no consideration for how things actually happen.

    From this, we get things like “cultural appropriation” which, in all previous millennia, was just people intermingling with other people and picking up habits from them that they liked.

    But now I’m a villain if I wear a chopstick in my hair.

    It’s stupid, it’s divisive, and it doesn’t actually help anything.

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    From this, we get things like “cultural appropriation” which, in all previous millennia, was just people intermingling with other people and picking up habits from them that they liked. But now I’m a villain if I wear a chopstick in my hair. It’s stupid, it’s divisive, and it doesn’t actually help anything.

    Again, agreed.

    We’re all told to accept diversity and accept other people’s cultures,

    But don’t you dare try to fashion yourself the same way.

    Sitting here like uninvited company.

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    Thank you both for letting me vent!  I should know better by now than to feed the trolls (and I eventually did hit the block button on one of those persons above).  That’s right – points 1, 2, 4, and 5 were from one singular person on a Discord server.  Don’t know if any of y’all ever did the old-school AOL chatrooms back in the day, but that’s very similar to how Discord feels – lotta similar-minded people discussing sports, media, whatever.  I had half a notion to set up a SCTMMC Discord Server but was dissuaded by Amy.

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    https://jeff-valdivia.medium.com/finally-an-answer-to-why-so-many-people-voted-for-trump-34106d896bec

    In case of paywall:
    https://pastebin.com/3DHNYJdM

    This article describes the “sanctimony” that I’m struggling with above – while Trumpism has literally 0 shame, the opposing field (the “woke left”) is literally nothing but shame.

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    Crazy begets crazy. Yes I think that’s true. I hate that I can have even just a basic conversation about political ideas and have someone openly rush to judge me as a supporter of “them” if I present criticism of whatever point that someone’s “us” idea is.

    You don’t agree with us? I didn’t know you were with them.

    It’s all odd to me because I could identify with some ideas from either side of politics. But the subscription to a set of ideals inevitably includes things I don’t agree with. This leads me to wonder why others don’t think similarly. What about ideas on their own merit vs. I’m team red or blue so this is what I believe in? My conclusion is that it’s much like sports in that it taps into some low level need for humans to be included in a group. Or external validation, something like that.

    I just can’t subscribe one way or the other. I like to think about stuff. Gather information and make educated decisions without feeling like I’m being unduly influenced or swayed. And in the future if I learn new information, I might even change my mind. Admitting to being wrong is a thing.

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    So what I was trying to say is that I’m a centrist.

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    Crazy begets crazy. Yes I think that’s true. I hate that I can have even just a basic conversation about political ideas and have someone openly rush to judge me as a supporter of “them” if I present criticism of whatever point that someone’s “us” idea is.

    You don’t agree with us? I didn’t know you were with them.

    It’s all odd to me because I could identify with some ideas from either side of politics. But the subscription to a set of ideals inevitably includes things I don’t agree with. This leads me to wonder why others don’t think similarly. What about ideas on their own merit vs. I’m team red or blue so this is what I believe in? My conclusion is that it’s much like sports in that it taps into some low level need for humans to be included in a group. Or external validation, something like that.

    I just can’t subscribe one way or the other. I like to think about stuff. Gather information and make educated decisions without feeling like I’m being unduly influenced or swayed. And in the future if I learn new information, I might even change my mind. Admitting to being wrong is a thing.

    It used to be easier, but the powers that be have decided it works better for them if we hate each other.  So they make up stuff to demonize each side and keep us at each others’ throats.  Neither side is telling you the full truth.  I get very annoyed when I see things on either side being puffed up into something more nefarious than they actually are, but that’s what we live with constantly in today’s media.

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    I found it!!

    I have come to kick ass

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    I’m not even sure how to suss this out, and I’m going to sound like an asshole, but you’re all fine with that:
    The person listed above who posited “disco sucks is racist,” “proper grammar is classist,” and “marijuana/marihuana is racist,” is gender nonconforming.  Cool, it’s 2020, that’s great.  She presents as female, but has a boyfriend.  She’s attracted to said boyfriend.  And I have no idea why she volunteers all this information, but she identifies as a gay male.  Her boyfriend (again, no idea why she volunteers all this information) presents as male, but identifies as a lesbian female.

    They’re both that.

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    I’m not even sure how to suss this out, and I’m going to sound like an asshole, but you’re all fine with that:

    The person listed above who posited “disco sucks is racist,” “proper grammar is classist,” and “marijuana/marihuana is racist,” is gender nonconforming. Cool, it’s 2020, that’s great. She presents as female, but has a boyfriend. She’s attracted to said boyfriend. And I have no idea why she volunteers all this information, but she identifies as a gay male. Her boyfriend (again, no idea why she volunteers all this information) presents as male, but identifies as a lesbian female.

    They’re both that.

    K.  Which one is the bass player?

    (gotta ask the important questions…)

    There's something about this that's so black, it's like how much more black could this be?
    And the answer is none. None more black. -Nigel Tufnel

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    I’m not even sure how to suss this out, and I’m going to sound like an asshole, but you’re all fine with that:

    The person listed above who posited “disco sucks is racist,” “proper grammar is classist,” and “marijuana/marihuana is racist,” is gender nonconforming. Cool, it’s 2020, that’s great. She presents as female, but has a boyfriend. She’s attracted to said boyfriend. And I have no idea why she volunteers all this information, but she identifies as a gay male. Her boyfriend (again, no idea why she volunteers all this information) presents as male, but identifies as a lesbian female.

    They’re both that.

    Part of me thinks it’s just easier to refer to them by name alone.

    Pronouns get people way too riled up these days.

    Sitting here like uninvited company.

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    I do not have a frame of personal reference for gender-nonconforming.  That means I personally do not understand it.  My husband used to come home with derisive comments about people at the University where he worked who wanted to be called they/them and were androgynous in how they presented themselves.  I just told him it didn’t matter; it’s none of his business and if, like me, he doesn’t understand it that just means he doesn’t understand it because it doesn’t apply to him.

    I knew similar folks at my University job (we both worked at different universities here) and I figured it didn’t hurt me any to just call them by the pronouns they requested and otherwise just treat them with basic human kindness.  My inability to relate on a personal level does not mean that what they experience isn’t real or valid or important, it just means that I don’t personally get it.  But that doesn’t mean I have to make a big deal out of it.  They aren’t harming me, and life goes on.

    Signature change for the win!

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