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    I think we should have a Guitar Amp thread.

     

    So, I’ll start with a question.

    Do any of you have any first hand knowledge of the Epiphone Valve Jr. amps?

    I’m intrigued, and if it’s decent (or even kinda sweet) it would be a nice lightweight option instead of my HEAVY Mesa Nomad combo.

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    Good idea as far as an amp thread as well.  :thumbsup:

    The Epi Valve Jr. is a very bare bone 5w amp much like the original Fender Champ.  Just a single volume control and an 8″ speaker in the combo.  Epi also offered it as a head only with a separate 1×12 cab.

    They’re well built and about as dependable as any single ended cathode biased Class A amp can be.  The cabs are plywood and the speakers are made by Eminence.  I’ve played a combo version but never owned one.  They’ve been discontinued for awhile now.

    What I have played and owned is a Bugera v5.  It’s similar to a Valve Jr. in that it’s also a 5w Class A amp running a single 12ax7 preamp tube and a single EL84 power tube also cathode biased.  But the v5 also has tone control, reverb, and separate gain and master volume controls and a British made Turbosound 8″ spkr.

    I think you could get a new v5 for the same or less than a used Valve Jr. and have a better amp with better features. JMHO

    There are quite a few 5w amps out there to choose from at various price levels and with varying features.  Some are EL84 based like a Kustom Defender Combo and others run off a single 6v6 power tube.  So you do have a few to choose from depending on how much you want to spend.

    Another consideration is 15w Egnater Tweaker like I have.  IME it’s one of the best sounding mid wattage amps I’ve ever played and versatile as all hell.  They offer it as a head w/separate cab or as a combo but all of it is fairly light in weight.  Not 5w light but much less than your Nomad Combo.

    Here’s the thing.  5w amps make ideal studio amps because you can crank the hell out of them without blowing out your ear drums but live they sound small.  I upgraded the speaker in my Bugera but still ended up running it through a 1×12 cab a lot.

    It’s a little more costly route but a 15w Tweaker Head with a 1×12 cab is really a nice sounding rig and more than loud enough for rehearsals and gigs whereas a 5w amp has it’s limits in that regard unless you do use a bigger cab anyway.  That’s been my experience.

     

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    Thanks Souly.

    I like the Egnater features a lot.  I’ll have to check one out, that could very well be just what I’m looking for!!

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    Thanks Souly.

    I like the Egnater features a lot. I’ll have to check one out, that could very well be just what I’m looking for!!

    You should be able to pick a 15w head up used for $250 or a 1×12 combo for $350-$400.  1×12 cabs usually run $100-$200.  I bought the head new and a close out Ampeg 112 cab for $429.

    I like having the 3 different voicings and the ability to use any octal power tubes.  Lot’s of versatility for little money.

    I have a pair of NOS Tung-sol 5881s in it now along with a pair NOS 5751 preamp tubes in V1 and V3 and it sounds really sweet.

    For a more accurate Marshall tone use EL34 power tubes.  Bold as all hell and louder than phuc when you run it hot.  Amazing amp.

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    Trapped in time, surrounded by evil, low on gas. When does this happen in the movie?

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too.  But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    With some ’10s a bass head like a VB4 or a SS rig run clean with some reverb and an EQ pedal to dial in better guitar frequencies can work well.

    That little Line 6 Lowdown 10 I have makes a pretty decent SS guitar amp when used that way.  My Epi Casino thinks it’s his long lost Mommy.

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too. But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

    Out of stock on TOOBS right now.

    Subbing BOOBS.  You may return them if they don’t suit your needs.

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too. But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

    Out of stock on TOOBS right now.

    Subbing BOOBS. You may return them if they don’t suit your needs.

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    I don’t have anything to add, just wanted to make a hypothetical set of Doublemint twins(s).

    "A man works hard for his trash to have it stolen by vagrants...it's a cryin' shame!"

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too. But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

    Out of stock on TOOBS right now.

    Subbing BOOBS. You may return them if they don’t suit your needs.

    <noscript></noscript>

    Her (their?) expression seems to indicate she (they) has (have) received The Dry Cob of Welcoming

    "A man works hard for his trash to have it stolen by vagrants...it's a cryin' shame!"

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too. But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

    Out of stock on TOOBS right now.

    Subbing BOOBS. You may return them if they don’t suit your needs.

    <noscript><noscript></noscript></noscript>

    Her (their?) expression seems to indicate she (they) has (have) received The Dry Cob of Welcoming

    I of course have no way of actually confirming it but one might assume she as before on many occasions.  :evilgrin:

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    But in the snowballs chance that you’re actually taking my advice, then I love my guitar through my Markbass rig, and my Ampeg VB4, much better than a guitar rig. Very warm and fat tone.

    I do that too. But, I want TOOBS!!!

    And the VB4 is still in the future…….

    Out of stock on TOOBS right now.

    Subbing BOOBS. You may return them if they don’t suit your needs.

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    Her (their?) expression seems to indicate she (they) has (have) received The Dry Cob of Welcoming

    I of course have no way of actually confirming it but one might assume she as before on many occasions. :evilgrin:<noscript>&lt;img src=”https://i0.wp.com/www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/images/smilies/evilgrin0007.gif?resize=21%2C19&amp;#038;ssl=1&#8243; alt=”:evilgrin:” width=”21″ height=”19″ data-recalc-dims=”1″ /&gt;</noscript>

    I feel as though it could be considered a good substitute.  Short term.  Long term you run the possibility of getting too much feedback.

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    I’m a huge Katy Perry fan, but I never knew about the boobs until this thread. Now I’m an even bigger fan. However, they’re a little overboard f you ask me.

    Trapped in time, surrounded by evil, low on gas. When does this happen in the movie?

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    And yes, the V4B SVT 212 makes a great guitar amp, which helps to justify buying one, and it’s loud, easy to haul, easy to fix, and fairly inexpensive when bought as a combo.

    Trapped in time, surrounded by evil, low on gas. When does this happen in the movie?

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    Flip the question!

    I’ve got 2 smallish practice amps for guitar, but I still don’t have a bass amp.  How do guitar-sized modelling amps (like the Roland Cubes, Fender Mustangs, or Peavey Vypyrs) hold up to the thunderous sounds of a bass guitar?

    I’ll be honest, guitar through a bass amp sounds pretty phuc’n sweet, but bass through my current guitar amps flubs out quite a bit and doesn’t sound sweet at all…that’s why I’m wondering about modelling amps.

    Knuckleduster 2.0

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    I’m a huge Katy Perry fan, but I never knew about the boobs until this thread. Now I’m an even bigger fan. However, they’re a little overboard f you ask me.

    Big boobs are like a 16″ pizza for one.  What ever you don’t consume at the first sitting will still be their tomorrow and they don’t require refrigeration.

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    Flip the question!

    I’ve got 2 smallish practice amps for guitar, but I still don’t have a bass amp. How do guitar-sized modelling amps (like the Roland Cubes, Fender Mustangs, or Peavey Vypyrs) hold up to the thunderous sounds of a bass guitar?

    I’ll be honest, guitar through a bass amp sounds pretty phuc’n sweet, but bass through my current guitar amps flubs out quite a bit and doesn’t sound sweet at all…that’s why I’m wondering about modelling amps.

    Not well at all.  Their speakers aren’t able to handle bass frequencies well nor the power needed to reproduce them.

    You’d probably get better results from a sealed back Roland Cube than any open back model but it’s still not ideal for a bass.

    You can pick up 50w-75w 1×10 or 1×12 bass combos pretty inexpensively.  I have a Line 6 Lowdown Studio 10 I picked up very cheap for around $100 that I use at home for practice.

    Other good ones I’ve used for rehearsals and as a stage monitor  are a used Ampeg BA112 and a Hartke Kickback 12.  All of them are in the $150-$250 range and make decent practice amps.

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    Here’s what I use for guitar amps:

    Marshall micro 1/2 stack (bottom cab vanished a LONG time ago) Lead 12 SS head, 1-10 slant cab.

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    And an OLD Voice Of Music all tube phonograph speaker – amp, (so combo amp), made in 1955 or so:

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    Playing bass for 35 years, taking time out for meals, of course

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    In the Spirit of TB, I’ll completely disregard the parameters of your query and tell you to play through one of your bass amps like I do, because of course, everyone only likes what I like.

    Flip the question!

    I’ve got 2 smallish practice amps for guitar, but I still don’t have a bass amp. How do guitar-sized modelling amps (like the Roland Cubes, Fender Mustangs, or Peavey Vypyrs) hold up to the thunderous sounds of a bass guitar?

    I’ll be honest, guitar through a bass amp sounds pretty phuc’n sweet, but bass through my current guitar amps flubs out quite a bit and doesn’t sound sweet at all…that’s why I’m wondering about modelling amps.

    When I was about 10 years into playing bass, and I sucked out loud because I never practiced, I sold all of my stuff. Then I missed it in a few months… But all I could afford was free “rat” bass and a blown guitar amp.

    I fixed the bass’s fret board with fiberglass and I put a celestion bass speaker in the guitar amp, and I played that way for a year. I may have grown more during that time than any other.

    Immediately following that is when I bought 2 American Deluxe Fender’s. One Jazz and One P, and here I am. I would put bass speakers in a guitar cab in a minute!

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    Here’s what I use for guitar amps:

    Marshall micro 1/2 stack (bottom cab vanished a LONG time ago) Lead 12 SS head, 1-10 slant cab.

    DSC02956

    DSC02959

    And an OLD Voice Of Music all tube phonograph speaker – amp, (so combo amp), made in 1955 or so:

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    Pretty sure this is the same setup that Dream Theater uses.

    Trapped in time, surrounded by evil, low on gas. When does this happen in the movie?

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