ponchonlefty
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mine goes boooom,you missed.
Firecracker... BOOM! (the zombie apocalypse thread)
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armyadarkness
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Mine is super accurate. I can pick off asprin bottles from 20 yards, which isnt bad for a 45
ponchonlefty
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i need more practice. i haven't fired a pistol in 20 yrs. not many places to do it here.
Pilgrim
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I was talking with a guy yesterday who was a supply officer in Viet Nam. He carried a 1911 and said the factory setup was so loose that you could hear it clink when you shook it. He said that the ones they got could hit human size target out to about 30 yards, but after that it got chancy. However, with a good tune they would do much better (and didn't clink when shaken.)
For a year in the 70s I had a satin chrome Colt Combat Commander (worth $$$ now) that was so inaccurate I used to say that I couldn't hit the side of a barn standing inside it. I traded it off for something that would hit a target. If I'd have known more I'd have had it worked on.
ponchonlefty
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i could see it being kinda fun. tinkering with a gun to perfection. getting things to operate smooth. same as hot rodding kinda. wouldn't mind restoring a cool old gun.
armyadarkness
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Mine is a culmination of all the improvements, over the years.
Tru-Glo Night Sights, Forward and Rear cocking serrations, Accessory Rails, Serrated Hogue G10 grips, Checkered Grip straps, Short Reset Triggers, Tapered Mag Wells
Tru-Glo Night Sights, Forward and Rear cocking serrations, Accessory Rails, Serrated Hogue G10 grips, Checkered Grip straps, Short Reset Triggers, Tapered Mag Wells
ponchonlefty
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is that cerakote? i wonder if you could coat heads with that?
armyadarkness
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Yes it is... and I dont know. It does discolor from heat.
ponchonlefty
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sorry for the dumb question. i cant believe the stuff your having to go thru.
ponchonlefty
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maybe a bb gun first? not much noise and can teach accuracy. ease him into it.
ponchonlefty
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i can see your point. but if taught to respect them as real weapons but less power can be a start.
i imagine it is a struggle with things like this. still i hope it goes well. i remember getting a bb gun and told
to treat it like a real gun. i never pointed it at anyone or ready to fire until practice shooting. i did get into trouble
for all the glass bottles that i left after.
armyadarkness
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Dad was a gun-horder. I never cared for most of his stuff... although some of it is definitely, unbelievably, rare and cool. I always thought this one was stoopid, but since I inherited it, Im loving it. It's a Micro 9 with an onboard Crimson Trace laser in the grip... and pocket sized.
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I've always had the impression that Kimber makes really good stuff. That looks intriguing. I favor exposed hammers over striker fired handguns, although my S&W Shield is striker-fired.
ponchonlefty
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i agree, i did enjoy shooting bottles more than cans.
armyadarkness
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Its an exact replica of a 1911, which to me is the most unusual and inappropriate design for a concealed carry-specific weepon. It's bulky, has too many parts, and is overly complicated... but it's also a proven performance platform. I cant believe it even has a beavertail at the grip.
Im right there with you and hammers...
My range instructors have always told us to "carry at all times". Which is opposite of what you'd think they'd say "dont carry unless you have to"... But the best thing you can do is familiarize yourself with your weepon, especially a concealed one. What will it do when you run, bend over, kneel down, jump, dance, etc.
With my SIG 226, familiarity seemed pointless, since it has no safety and is pretty much a grip and rip gun. But 1911's do have a lot more going on, and when youre nervous or bending over to pick up your kid from day care, thats not the time you want to find out that your holster sucks or how to work a safety.
AFAIC, Smith and Wesson is like Cadillac... all of the prestige that made them the king, now is reflected only in price. All of the new-up-and-comers have wizzed past the big names...
Ruger continues to be the best bang for the buck, and I think SIG is "the Ruger" of performance stuff. I pay more for SIG than most general brands, but not a lot more, and that money is notably well-spent on standard features like:
- Night Sites
- Cocking serrations
- Checkered grips
- Tapered mag wells
- Refined trigger mechanisms
- Thoughtful balance and design
- Unbeatable reliability, consistence, and performance..
F&N, Kimber, and a few others offer the modern refinements and ground-breaking designs of the new kids on the block, but with unmatched manufacturing precision and quality.
Hard to believ that in todays-world, we need to talk about warranties and service when considering a weepon purchase. You can pretty much pick up, load, and fire any gun from 1901 to 1980, without doing a thing. Modern stuff is more like a Jewish GF, you really need to go far out of your way if you want it to perform.
armyadarkness
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BTW, not dissing S&W... They'll always hold a special place in my heart... but not thrilled that they price a lot of their classic stuff out of my reach.
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I have plenty of stuff I COULD carry, but I'm not paranoid enough to feel that it's necessary. I've lived 75 years by staying out of the places where I might need a firearm, and I continue to do that. I know there are plenty of people who feel that carrying a firearm is necessary 24x7, but I don't agree with (or understand) that approach.
Carrying a firearm complicates ones' life. It's not only a capability, but a big responsibility, and it means I can never forget where the firearm is, how it's secured, where I can and can't carry it, where and how to store it if needed, and there is an absolute responsibility never to mishandle, misplace or forget it in a restroom. A handgun is often uncomfortable while sitting or driving. It's also a problem with concealment, and I don't want to go through maneuvers to conceal its outline.
I also think others have every right to question my ability to carry and use a firearm safely, as they have no knowledge of me, my training or judgment, and they are perfectly entitled to question those things. I darn sure have questions about THEIR training and judgment!
In short, I don't carry a firearm unless I'm planning to hike in bear country or be in a place where there may be no way to avoid serious problems. It's too big a responsibility and a pain in the butt to carry otherwise.
As they say on the Interwebz, YMMV.
I'm a big S&W guy, as they have always fit my hand well. With a model 39, 3913 and Shield, and four revolvers from .22 to .357, I have lots to choose from. I had a Model 27 Highway Patrolman but sold it to get a 686 because it fit my daughter (headed for Alaska) better, and I regret selling it. The only Ruger I have is a Mark 2 in .22 that I inherited from my dad. I have other stuff too, but it's the result of long accumulation.
The thing I like most about the S&W models 39 and 3913 is that they're double action on the first shot. I can carry safely with one in the chamber, hammer down, safety off, and using it is just like a revolver - draw and pull the trigger. I've never been comfortable with the 1911 practice of carrying cocked and locked with safety on, as I don't want to mess with a safety. That leaves revolvers and semi-autos with double-action first shot.
I have a small Llama .22 that's quite literally a scaled-down 1911, and it's really nice to shoot. It's one of my favorites, but it's more prone to misfires than other firearms I have. It's very particular about the ammo used.
Carrying a firearm complicates ones' life. It's not only a capability, but a big responsibility, and it means I can never forget where the firearm is, how it's secured, where I can and can't carry it, where and how to store it if needed, and there is an absolute responsibility never to mishandle, misplace or forget it in a restroom. A handgun is often uncomfortable while sitting or driving. It's also a problem with concealment, and I don't want to go through maneuvers to conceal its outline.
I also think others have every right to question my ability to carry and use a firearm safely, as they have no knowledge of me, my training or judgment, and they are perfectly entitled to question those things. I darn sure have questions about THEIR training and judgment!
In short, I don't carry a firearm unless I'm planning to hike in bear country or be in a place where there may be no way to avoid serious problems. It's too big a responsibility and a pain in the butt to carry otherwise.
As they say on the Interwebz, YMMV.
I'm a big S&W guy, as they have always fit my hand well. With a model 39, 3913 and Shield, and four revolvers from .22 to .357, I have lots to choose from. I had a Model 27 Highway Patrolman but sold it to get a 686 because it fit my daughter (headed for Alaska) better, and I regret selling it. The only Ruger I have is a Mark 2 in .22 that I inherited from my dad. I have other stuff too, but it's the result of long accumulation.
The thing I like most about the S&W models 39 and 3913 is that they're double action on the first shot. I can carry safely with one in the chamber, hammer down, safety off, and using it is just like a revolver - draw and pull the trigger. I've never been comfortable with the 1911 practice of carrying cocked and locked with safety on, as I don't want to mess with a safety. That leaves revolvers and semi-autos with double-action first shot.
I have a small Llama .22 that's quite literally a scaled-down 1911, and it's really nice to shoot. It's one of my favorites, but it's more prone to misfires than other firearms I have. It's very particular about the ammo used.
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armyadarkness
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I hated, HATED 9mm for 35 years, and refused to own one. Ive always been a 45 cal guy, and 38 Special fan.
I loved 1911's on paper, but in reality I found them bulky and antiquated... so my 45s were usually modern. One day, one of my survival buddies said "even if you hate 9mm, you need one because it's a NATO round, so ammo will be plentiful in survival situation". So, I bought the SIG 226 Elite, SEALS gun, and that changed my mind about 9mm.
Now it's more accurate to say that I dont care for polymer guns... as for striker-fired, none ever appealed to me, so Im not qualified to say if they're any good. The fact that law enforcement seems to use them universally, is a stout endorsement, however... the fact that the military does the exact opposite, continues to cloud an opinion.
Andyman
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What don't you like about polymer? most (i think) are a poly "lower" and a steel slide/ barrel (my M&P is) & mags are usually both.
just curious. Differences are what make life interesting.
armyadarkness
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22 will ALWAYS be finicky with ammo.
Its interesting to note that people buy them because they're so cheap to shoot, but if you buy "good" 22 ammo, then they're just as expensive as everything else.
Same with 357 vs 38... I still hear people say "get a 357 and use 38 ammo cause its much cheaper". Yeah, maybe in 1982... but now that 38s are dinosaurs, ammo is no longer cheaper than 357.
Ive also simply avoided "questionable places", my entire life, vs "carrying"... but as an undercover law enforcement investigator, I often had to walk into dark, strange, seedy looking places, that were located in shitty places... like Atlantic City.
I still need to do that occasionally, not often, but occasionally. That being said car jackings are becoming more prevalent, especially surrounding Atlantic City, and those stakes rise when you're in a rare, desirable car.
As for my new need to carry on my own new land... it was a junkyard for the last 20 years, and so scrappers came and went as they pleased... often without permission and often to steal. Scrappers are an unusual breed... often homeless or living in squalor, so the fact that this land is hidden in the woods and filled with abandoned buildings and campers, is even more unnerving.
Many of them could be friends of the old owner, or even received prior permission to be here, and not know that Im the new owner. Sure, I could prove it if a dispute arose, but having a 1911 on my hip makes it so that no disputes arise. And since its on a heavily traveled road, people riding past and seeing me mowing the lawn with a 1911, and shotgun belt, are likely to tell their friends to avoid the property.
And finally, it's the wilderness, so lord knows what I'll encounter out there...
In most cases my weepon is a deterrent, not a defense... so concealed carry units arent much use to me